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Re: where to begin

From:Nik Taylor <yonjuuni@...>
Date:Monday, January 19, 2004, 4:09
Marty Rosenberg wrote:
> First of all - and I don't remember who this was too, > as I don't have the old digests anymore -, when I said > an interesting orthography doesn't make for an > interesting language, I didn't mean that orthography > was useless or boring in any way. In fact, I create an > a sound set first, immediately followed by the > orthography. If I can't create an interesting > orthography for something, I start over.
Personally I tend to use simplest possible orthography. Sound is more important to me than looks. But, of course, it's all a matter of personal asthetics. :-)
> Second, I don't know where to place the language in > it's surroundings. At what point in time do I place > it? (McWhorter: Latin didn't just become French. It > had to go through "Fratin".) What place, or dialect? > What point on a potential dialect continuum? Should I > decide this before or after I create the language?
I'm not sure what you're asking.
> And fourth (yes, fourth :-D), where should I start? > Creating roots? Words? Sound set? Orthography? > Grammar? Which part of the grammar? I'M SO CONFUSED!!! > :-s *Breathes deeply*
Well, I usually start with a basic idea of what I want, e.g., basic type (isolating, inflecting, agglutinating), what kind of genders, if any, what types of things are inflected, then I come up with a basic sound system, and orthography, and then work out gramatical forms and words. However, this isn't a simple step-by-step process, as at any point in the process, I can, and, early on, often do, go back to modify what I've already made. For example, I might decide that I *do* want a length distinction in vowels after all, and so add that distinction, randomly lengthening vowels. Or I may decide that I don't want stop-nasal combinations, and ban those, modifying any words accordingly. Or maybe I'll decide that there was a /ti/ -> /tSi/ change (and /tS/ is already a phoneme), so then I'll change any /ti/ I have to /tSi/. Nothing's ever set in stone, *especially* not early on.
> > Sorry to be such a burden... Thanks in advance for all > the help! ;-) > > Marty Rosenberg > Ah, the power of the word cheese. > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes > http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus
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