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Re: Hello all: I'm new...a quick question about vocabularies

From:Pablo Flores <fflores@...>
Date:Tuesday, October 6, 1998, 23:36
David Bush wrote:
> >Hello all fellow creative linguists. > I joined your group yesterday and love it already. I find it >strange to unite with people in a hobby that I thought had practically >no following. I love conlangs, but have made only five of any merit. My last >project, a language which I >named Kesa, was a language with >Latin-type inflections, except the system was supposedly completely >unambiguous. I have given up on Kesa because it's so complicated that I >can't write anything in it without much work. > My question is this: how do you people decide on the vocabularies >of your conlangs? I set my sights too high for Kesa with a goal to >translate 15,000 English words. I got up to 2,500. I have a hard time >limiting my vocabularies under 2,000 words. What are your meathods?
Why do you limit your vocabularies? You can't have too many words! :) I have no standard methods for creating vocabulary, but I can tell some things I've done. * Semantic fields: I take a certain field of reality and I create words for it. For example, animals (and I create the words for dog, cat, bird, horse, etc.), house appliances, body parts, colours, etc. * Free association: this is what psychologists do. Look around and find an interesting object, and then create words for everything that it suggests to you (you should write down a list and then translate them all). For example: table > food > eat > fork > spoon > tea > cup > hands > hold, etc. * Translation: this is the favourite of most people so far, and mine too. Take a general text and translate it. Begin with something simple. Some parts of the Bible are probably a good start. Myself, I've been working on the book of Ecclesiastes. * Unorthodox methods: I sometimes create nice words and *then* assign meaning to them. One time I did this with rhyming words (this is good for light poetry too :) I've quit trying to choose goals. When they're too low, I reach them and found myself needing more words. When they're too high, it seems to me I'm never going to reach them and get depressed. 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