Re: Dog Latin

On Sunday, January 25, 2004, at 11:21 PM, Christian Thalmann wrote:

> --- In conlang@yahoogroups.com, Ray Brown <ray.brown@F...> wrote:
>> On Saturday, January 24, 2004, at 07:25 PM, Andreas Johansson wrote:
>>
>>> Quoting Christian Thalmann <cinga@G...>:
>>>> *Volutus in solo ridens meas nates ab*
>>>
>>> This looks more like Latin - I don't understand it!
>>
>> It ain't - you can't have prepositions prepositing nothing in Latin!
>> (i.e. you can't have "ab" at the end likr that!!)
>
> In other words, it's pure-blooded Dog Latin.  =)
Yep.

[snip]
> As for |volutus| -- I wanted to translate "rolling", in the
> intransitive, active sense, but my dictionary gave me |volvi|
> for intransitive "roll".
That's correct.

> Is there a more appropriate form
> than |volutus| for the desired meaning?  |Volutus sens|,
> perhaps?  ;-)
NO.  A Roman would've written 'volutus' (or rather VOLVTVS :)

But if it's dog Latin, I guess 'volvens' could be intransitive :)
>
>> *Volutus in solo       ridens   meas nates    ab*
>> Rolled   on the-floor  laughing my   arse/ass off
>>
>>>> BTW, I'd use "futuenter" rather than "copulandus".
>>
>> 'futuenter' derives an appropriate verb, and is a real doggy
> formation  :)
>
> What would the real adverb derivation from |futuens| look like?
> |Futuentiter|?  |Futuendo|?
No - actually I made a boo-boo there. 'futuenter' is _not_ a doggy
formation - it's correct Classical Latin  :(

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>> Not only is _copulandus_ correctly formed, the formation is literary
>> and the verb far too polite.  No self-respecting dog would ever use
>> such a form    ;)
>
> Hmmm, on second thought, I should have used |culum| rather
> than |nates|.  =P
Maybe - but neither 'nates' nor 'culus' are exactly common in surviving
Classical Latin so it's not clear whether either more more vulgar than
the other.

Ray
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