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Re: Universal Translation Language

From:Raymond A. Brown <raybrown@...>
Date:Saturday, June 5, 1999, 20:31
At 5:15 pm +0200 5/6/99, taliesin the storyteller wrote:
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>unfamiliar with? Sure, I can find explanations of terms like 'attributive' and >'equative' in my copy of "A dictionary of grammatical terms in >linguistics" by >R. L Trask (hereby recommended to all), but he doesn't mention in what branch >of linguistics this originated, and gives no context whatsoever. > >So in what books did you pick up these terms, and if they are in French only, >can you recommend a good French -> English linguistic dictionary?
Certainly not French only! 'Attributive' I've known this word for a good forty years or more. It's been around in books here in the UK and I wasn't aware that it was associated with any particular school. The chief place I've come across in describing a feature in languages like Russian or German where _attributive adjectives_ (e.g. a new house; noviy dom; ein neues Haus) behave in one way as regards inflexions, agreement etc, and _predicative adjectives_ behave a different way (e.g. the house is new; dom nov; das Hause ist neu). I wasn't aware that there was a different terminology. 'equative' I've also known this word for a long time as it is traditionally used in denoting one of the degrees of comparison of adjectives & adverbs in the Celtic languages: positive, equative, compartive & superlative. The Celticlangs have a separate form for 'as tall (as)' [equative], besides the more common comparative (taller) and superlative (tallest) of many other natlangs. But I suspect it wasn't that use Mathias employed; and I must admit that I have met this second use of 'equative' less often - but it is not AFAIK particularly French any more than it is English usage - namely the type of sentence where one noun is 'equated' with the other: "Fred is leader". The verb "is" is sometimes called an 'equational verb' to distinguish it from the 'active/passive' sort of verbs, though I admit the terms 'copulative verb' or 'copula' are more common (but I guess I see why some people prefer 'equative'& 'equational' rather than 'copulative'.) Ray.