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Re: Questions Concerning Grammar

From:Thomas R. Wier <trwier@...>
Date:Tuesday, August 3, 2004, 15:00
From:    Philip Newton <philip.newton@...>
> On Sun, 1 Aug 2004 20:59:06 -0700, william drewery <will65610@...> > wrote: > > > I'm more familiar with the way topicality works in > > > Korean. There, the topic marker and the subject marker are in > > > complimentary distribution. You can mark the subject as topic, or > > > as subject but not both. Thus: > > > > > > (a) They-TOP saw the dog-ABS and ___ ran. > > > (b) They-ERG saw the dog-ABS and ___ ran. > > > (c) *They-TOP-ERG saw the dog-ABS and ___ ran. > > > > > > (Korean's nom/acc, but you get the idea.) > > > > If I understand this right, "they" is the assumed > > argument of "ran"? > > I interpreted is as having "they" as the assumed argument of "ran" in > (a) (since it's marked as the topic), "the dog" as the assumed > argument of "ran" in (b) (since it's in the absolutive case, which is > the unmarked case), and that (c) is ungrammatical.
No, that's actually not what I meant at all. I had said in that post that the syntactic pivot of a language may have nothing to do with how an argument is case-marked. In this case, I was assuming that the implied subject of _ran_ was _they_, in whatever case. I was just trying to explain one way of topic-marking, where the topic-marker and case-markers are in complimentary distribution. ========================================================================= Thomas Wier "I find it useful to meet my subjects personally, Dept. of Linguistics because our secret police don't get it right University of Chicago half the time." -- octogenarian Sheikh Zayed of 1010 E. 59th Street Abu Dhabi, to a French reporter. Chicago, IL 60637