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Re: THEORY: Verbs go irregular before our very eyes!

From:John Cowan <jcowan@...>
Date:Thursday, November 8, 2001, 13:46
And Rosta wrote:


> If Set III stems are all V-final, then Set I stems, the C-final ones, can > be made regular by a rule that deletes the t- from -tia. That leaves Set > II as those with unconditioned t-deletion.
Synchronically that's possible, but it's hard to see any reasonable explanation for just those verbs having an unconditioned deletion. Diachronically, the notion that Maori has moved from a situation with both C-final and V-final stems using regular phonologically conditioned passivation, to a situation with only V-final stems and regular/irregular passivation (with irregulars numerically dominant) seems quite satisfying.
> From the learner's point > of view, none of this makes any difference; my point is just that from the > analyst's point of view, varying degrees of ingenuity will find varying > degrees of regularity.
Granted. But the distinction between regularity and irregularity is not purely an analytical convenience: there are testable differences between what is processed by the syntax-rule-machine and what is processed by the pattern-associator-machine. (We need to talk to some Maori speakers with genetic defects!)
> More generally, though, I believe that unless (as in English) regular > and irregular inflection have phonologically different repercussions,
> inflectional (ir)regularity is largely an irrelevance to the existing > lexicon.
Can you expand on this? What different repercussions, and what existing lexicon? -- Not to perambulate || John Cowan <jcowan@...> the corridors || http://www.reutershealth.com during the hours of repose || http://www.ccil.org/~cowan in the boots of ascension. \\ Sign in Austrian ski-resort hotel

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