Re: A drum roll! A fanfare! Here it is!

> As Fabian's text is in the prophetic tense, I've put mine into the
> inceptive future, used for prophecies and expectations (which may be
> very trivial, like "It's going to rain" or very high-flown, like
> "This book shall not be found again until the end of time"). It's
> remarkable that Fabian's poem seems to be all about the same bird
> ("This bird ..."), whereas mine (below) clearly was about three
> different birds. At least the birds are still there, now I wonder
> where the king came in!
Interestingly, the text I got from Carlos was clearly about one bird,
but the Arov=EBn version might have expanded them back to three birds (no
bird in the fourth sentence by this point...): Andawilv=E4n, Delvowilv=E4n,
Holowilv=E4n -- "the great bird", "the river bird", "the songbird"; there
is a pattern which would have made it clear that these three all referred
to the same thing, but I omitted it for poetic reasons.  The "king" was
"the leaders" in Carlos' version, but it was unclear how the "all" was
to be interpreted -- I guessed "all the leaders", which went to "a whole
group of leaders" in Arov=EBn, which evidently went to "every monarch" in
Fabian's or your interpretation.  The "prophetic tense" is from Arov=EBn;
Carlos's Chleweyish version was written in the present tense, which I
had to express in the "undefined" or "dependant" tense in Arov=EBn.


> "Of itself", "of themselves" can mean, in Valdyan as well as in
> English, either "uniquely its own" or "about itself, having to do
> with itself".
I wonder where this came from?  In the Arov=EBn the bird is singing a "melo=
dy",
not about itself or anything else in particular: "Andawilv=E4n ty=EBmeholno=
."
(great-bird-the melody-acc.-sing-dep.).


> And this is what it started out as:
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> Hanleni halsen varyenan laynat
> Daysinen verein idanla le listat
> Havien hinla laziena forat
> Culea rachleni arlea a chalat?
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> The song of the starlings speaks of heroic deeds
> In the morning rain the heron washes its clothes
> In the night the lark worships the stars
> Who sees the true nature of birds?
How did "starling" get to be "large bird"??
Heron =3D=3D river bird  seems clear
Lark =3D=3D songbird  also.
Line #4 got pretty thoroughly mangled!  Not only did it not survive
as a question, but the end result doesn't even refer to the bird
itself...

Josh

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