Re: Pitch

bnathyuw <bnathyuw@...> writes:
> --- Pavel Adamek <pavel.adamek@...> wrote: > > >
>   First off, what's the opposite of
> > tonogenesis?
Tonothanasis? Tonolisis? Detonation? :)

> > > Basically, instead of a rise in volume you have a
> > rise in pitch..
Can't it be a drop? According to the definition given
earlier in this thread, I'm beginning to think Senu
Yivokuchi has a register tone system. For polysyllabic
words, it has these rules:

    1) There's one and only one pitch change, either a
       drop or a rise.
    2) The pitch change appears between two syllables.
    3) If the pitch change appears after the N-th syllable,
       there must be at least N syllables after it.

So you can have HL, LH, HLL, LHH, but not LLH or HHL
or LHL or HLH. What is this?

> not so in welsh english. that has a noticable drop on
> stressed syllables
I've noticed it (in a couple of movies). Is it possible
to have both pitch and stress accent (one of them maybe
being not phonemical, but not free either), and have
them being orthogonal/independent?


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