Re: V2 languages

B.Philip Jonsson skrev:
>
> Matt, while reading this and the other excamples you gave, I was more o=
r
> less unconsciously translating them word-by-word into Swedish, and apar=
t
> from the instances of object-first the word-order felt mostly "right" i=
n
> Swedish.
>
>         [Johan] GAV [boken] [till Allis] [ig=E5r eftermiddag]
>
> is completely natural Swedish.  It would seem that Swedish is a V2
language
> with a main-clause WO very similar to German (but more comsistently so
than
> German, without that verb-last-in-sub-clause rule that makes all
> non-Germans hate their German-techers...)
>
> Do you agree?
I do agree.  Yes, Swedish is a V2 language and I think a better example t=
han
German.

> BTW it never occurred to my conscious mind that Swedish and English was
> different in this respect.  Are they really?
In the natlangs I know there is a difference in this point.  I can put an=
y
number of objects (adverbs, prepositional phrases, etc.) before the verb =
in
Spanish, and I can put the subject after the verb as longer as agreement
will disambiguish.  In English I can only put one object before the verb,
you should avoid direct or indirect object (acusative or dative) but is n=
ot
a must: (John I gave the book), and subject must always be just before ve=
rb.
In Swedish you can also put ONE object before verb, direct and indirect
object should be avoided and verb must be the second position (if there i=
s
an object before the verb, subject must be after the verb).

-- Carlos Th
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   - =BFPor qu=E9 no?
   - No tiene sentido.
   - =BFQu=E9 sentido?  El sentido no existe.
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sin sentido, como aqu=ED.
    (-- Graeville 2)