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Re: OT Van Gogh (was: Yogh in the news)

From:Benct Philip Jonsson <bpj@...>
Date:Friday, January 20, 2006, 18:57
René Uittenbogaard skrev:
> G. Pieterson <kyrawertho@...> wrote: > > >>René Uittenbogaard wrote: >> >> >>>I don't know of any [v] realisations of |w|. I'd say: >>> >>>|w| - [w] or [v\] >>>|v| - [v] or [v_0] >>>|f| - [f] >>> >>> >>>> >> >>That's strange, I have never heared of anyone distinguishing between >>V and F in Dutch. It all sounds like /f/ to me, or maybe voiced a bit >>between two vowels. Same thing for S vs. Z. > > > I have the impression that some speakers do make a difference, > although the difference between [v_0] and [f] is small. > But maybe there are speakers who pronounce |v| and |f| alike, and any > perceived difference in their speech is probably "wishful hearing" > on my part? > > Between |s| and |z|, it's the same thing, I suppose. > > René
I believe some Dutchman (Jan van Steenbergen?) mentioned to me that these distinctions are absent in an Amsterdam accent. -- /BP 8^)> -- Benct Philip Jonsson -- melroch at melroch dot se "Maybe" is a strange word. When mum or dad says it it means "yes", but when my big brothers say it it means "no"! (Philip Jonsson jr, age 7)