Re: OT Van Gogh (was: Yogh in the news)
|From:||Benct Philip Jonsson <bpj@...>|
|Date:||Friday, January 20, 2006, 18:57|
René Uittenbogaard skrev:
I believe some Dutchman (Jan van Steenbergen?) mentioned to
me that these distinctions are absent in an Amsterdam accent.
Benct Philip Jonsson -- melroch at melroch dot se
"Maybe" is a strange word. When mum or dad says it
it means "yes", but when my big brothers say it it
(Philip Jonsson jr, age 7)
> G. Pieterson <kyrawertho@...> wrote:
>>René Uittenbogaard wrote:
>>>I don't know of any [v] realisations of |w|. I'd say:
>>>|w| - [w] or [v\]
>>>|v| - [v] or [v_0]
>>>|f| - [f]
>>That's strange, I have never heared of anyone distinguishing between
>>V and F in Dutch. It all sounds like /f/ to me, or maybe voiced a bit
>>between two vowels. Same thing for S vs. Z.
> I have the impression that some speakers do make a difference,
> although the difference between [v_0] and [f] is small.
> But maybe there are speakers who pronounce |v| and |f| alike, and any
> perceived difference in their speech is probably "wishful hearing"
> on my part?
> Between |s| and |z|, it's the same thing, I suppose.