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Re: Mandombe

From:Paul Bennett <paul-bennett@...>
Date:Wednesday, January 10, 2007, 15:08
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From: Antonielly Garcia Rodrigues <antonielly@...>

> On 1/10/07, Benct Philip Jonsson <conlang@...> wrote: > > > > Sinceit was created only in the 1970's rather than by 'natural > > evolution' it may qualify as a conscript! :-)
There are very many other "nat" conscripts, the most famous being Hangul, but Pollard, UCAS, Cherokee, Vai, Khitan (plausibly), Yi (plausibly), and others show the phenomenon is unusual but not unheardof.
> There are of course naturally evolved languages. Are there naturally > evolved scripts? I thought all existing human script systems were > artificial.
I consider the situation with "naturally evolved" scripts a close analog to the evolution from Pidgin to Creole to Natlang (and indeed most theories of natural evolution and language evolution). Take the case of the Levantine scripts, the largest stock of writing systems. There was a progenitor script (quite plausibly describable as a conscript, though it appears to be based on synchronic local writing systems to some extent), but from it have evolved a wide and deep family tree of distinct natscripts (Latin, Greek, Cyrillic, Armenian, Arabic, Hebrew, Syriac, and Mongolian, as well as probably Brahmi and Karosthi, and via them Devanagari and the local scripts of India, Tibet, and the majority of South East Asia, as well as maybe Tifinagh), all of which show the long, gradual development expected of a "natural" phenomenon. Many other writing systems are indeed "stand alone" entities, but Chinese spawned the Japanese Kana (and Kanji, if you consider it distinct (along with Korean and Vietnamese use of Hanzi)), and Bopomofo, and certainly inspired the Khitan scripts. Mayan seems to be an evolution of central/south American pictographic pre-writing systems, and indeed Aztec could be regarded as ideo- and even logo- graphic in parts. The Egyptian Heiroglyphic script grew over thousands of years from pre-writing, then evolved into Heiratic and Demotic, and left its legacy in Coptic. Paul

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