Re: Nur-ellen in the world of Brithenig

Me govanen!

Padraig Brown on tech and culture *there*:

> The technology is a little "different". We do have cars and trains and
> zeppelins;
Zeps seem to be very popular in alternative timelines; well, they are
the obvious examples of a nice technology which died an untimely death
which could have been avoided.  And they are quiet and clean, much to
the liking of the Il`l.

>       there are computers and many other things that are
> recognisably "modern". On the other hand, the computers aren't as
> advanced or as widespread; technology in general is probably more
> reminiscent of the late 1970s or early 1980s. There does appear to be
> a kind of nascent intercomputer network; but is still the domain of
> schools, researchers and the military.
Like good ole ARPANET...

>       Some areas are more advanced
> than others: Kemr proper seems to be fairly urban and industrial and
> getting paved over quite nicely (horrid thought for llo hYlyl!);
Sure it is.  Indeed, the environmentalist movement in Kemr is to a large
part an Elvish matter.  It must have been a particularly hard struggle
to get the motorway to Tafrobl built.  There was also much debate on it
in the city itself: business types wanted it, the Il`l were opposed to
it.

>       while
> Dunein is largely rural, poor, and many people call it a nine day
> wonder to see a car.
So there is an Italian-style north-south dichotomy; one can assume that
many Kernow move north to find better-paid jobs.

John Cowan on the same matter:

> A little behind (no PCs) and a little different in some areas (aircraft
> are only used for military purposes, e.g.). Think 1965-75.
If it is about 1965-75 culturally as well, it is in the age of "love,
peace and music" and there is still hope that the spirit will linger
on.  So if you go to Tafrobl these days you will find it crowded with
hippies from all over the world
on pilgrimage to meet the Il`l and partake in the groovy events on
Mertlad.

> > You mean the Channel Islands?  The language is named Arvorec.  What is
> > their political status, anyway?
>
> They are an independent constitutional monarchy.  The chief industries
> are smuggling and money-laundering.
Pretty much the same what they are *here*, except that they are not
entirely independent.  Possibly really under control of Lla Gos Nustr.

John on Jews and their language:

> After the Jewish Enlightenment, J-Brithenig probably died out as a
> separate language, same as J-French, J-Italian, and Western Yiddish.
> (Eastern) Yiddish and J-Spanish only survived *here* because their speakers
> migrated to an area where alien languages (Slavic and Turkic respectively)
> were spoken, so the language could not merge with the surrounding
> languages.
Surely, the Jews of Kemr mostly speak plain Brithenig; after all, we are
in western Europe where Jews usually speak the same language as the
goyim they live amongst.

Syld,
Joerg.