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Re: E and e (was: A break in the evils of English (or, Sturnan is beautiful))

From:Danny Wier <dawier@...>
Date:Friday, May 3, 2002, 6:12
From: "Raymond Brown" <ray.brown@...>

> The phonemic theory does not IMO tell the whole story. Hypothetical > languages can easily be constructed to make any theory fall down. I don't > reallly understand what sound [t_D] is, it seems odd to have a voiced > off-glide from a voicless plosive. To be honest, if I ever came across a > language with only four consonants, and those in such odd distribution, I > would suspect I didn't have the whole story and want to know more.
[t_d] means an apicodental stop in X-SAMPA. Don't know why he has capital D though.
> >Is there are contrast between 'beer is' and *'bee riz'? > > It depends on the dialect - in some there'd be noticeable difference, but > not in all.
I say [bIr Iz].
> It's Greek /xris"tos a"nesti/ - it's the greeting Greeks give one another > at Eastertide. It means "Christ is risen". The reply is /a"nesti
ali"Tos/
> "He is truly risen". The / / enclose phonemic values; the Greek I've
heard
> pronounce /e/ and /o/ are rather lower and closer to [E] and [O].
I think the French (check me here Christophe) say something like "l'amour de Dieu est folie", meaning "the love of God is folly".

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Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>
Jan van Steenbergen <ijzeren_jan@...>XPICTOC ANECTH