Re: Creole/mixed language question
| From: | J Y S Czhang <czhang23@...> |
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| Date: | Sunday, April 11, 2004, 23:21 |
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In a message dated 2004:04:10 10:39:10 PM, ThatBlueCat@AOL.COM writes:
>John Chang wrote:
>
><<Pidgins and creoles overwhelming tend towards non-inflected forms and
>simplicity, hence quite often pidgins are called perjoratives like "broken
>language" or "baby talk." Pidgins and creoles are mutant offspring of both
>the lexifier-language and substrate languages, thus are totally new
languages:>>
>
>One bit of info you left out is that pidgins and creoles, statistically,
>have IE languages as their lexifiers. So while it looks like statistically
>pidgins tend towards non-inflected forms, the real reason for that is only
>because most of them have lexifiers that are moving towards isolationism.
If
>you look at other pidgins and creoles that come from highly inflected
languages,
>the pidgins and creoles themselves also are highly inflected. The
generalization
>that seems to be true, though, is that they inflect *less* than than either
>the lexifier or the substrate.
Thanx for filling in that bit I left out. (I actually kinda suspected you
would.)
BTW I would not classify "Ebonics" as a post-creole acrolect. I
personally think it is a subcultural dialect of non-Standard English. Some its original
roots may have been West African once upon a time but so substantially
changed under the influence of Englishification that any _direct_ linkage is highly
dubious and too close to"stretching" facts to fit a theory to be rigorously
scientific.
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