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Re: Creole/mixed language question

From:Thomas R. Wier <trwier@...>
Date:Sunday, April 11, 2004, 21:06
CZhang said:
> Pidgins and creoles overwhelming tend towards > non-inflected forms and simplicity, hence quite > often pidgins are called perjoratives like "broken > language" or "baby talk." Pidgins and creoles are > mutant offspring of both the lexifier-language and > substrate languages, thus are totally new languages: > 1 lexifier-language (i.e. the colonial language) + 1 > substrate language (the native language) = a 3rd > language
This is a myth about creole-genesis that really ought to die, but it's amazingly persistent. Read up on stuff by Michel DeGraff or Salikoko Mufwene. Their work shows that no clear definition exists distinguishing creoles and pidgins based on actual historical data, and that the particular structure of these languages is deeply related to the particular social circumstances surrounding their birth. (In the West Indies, one major factor is the demographic ratio of African languages spoken in a given slave plantation in the West Indies wrt. the particular nonstandard variety of the colonial language used there.) ========================================================================= Thomas Wier "I find it useful to meet my subjects personally, Dept. of Linguistics because our secret police don't get it right University of Chicago half the time." -- octogenarian Sheikh Zayed of 1010 E. 59th Street Abu Dhabi, to a French reporter. Chicago, IL 60637