Re: CHAT letter names (was: CHAT Etruscana etc)
From: | Mark J. Reed <markjreed@...> |
Date: | Monday, March 1, 2004, 11:33 |
On Mon, Mar 01, 2004 at 07:51:26PM +1100, Tristan McLeay wrote:
> > No, no - that _is_ dialect variation or ideoloect
> > variation.
>
> Isn't that exactly what I said? I think I might be
> confused?
The original message said that the letters have standard pronunciations
everywhere, modulo 'lect variations. Ray pointed out that Z (/zi/ vs
/zEd/) was an exception. You cited H (/ejtS/ vs /hejtS/) as an
additional exception, but Ray pointed out that it's not one because that
difference falls under the "'lect variations" umbrella.
> /hy:/? When did ypsilon come about?
The name "ypsilon" is a contraction of the descriptive phrase "y psilon"
= "simple y", and would be pronounced with an initial /h/ anyway by
Greek rules of the time. Ditto for "epsilon". For that matter, "o
micron" is "short o", contrasted with "o mega" = "long o".
> * Some might say that 'patriotism' would sound less
> bad. To me, anti-Americanism is the lesser silliness.
Better to be anti-American than pro-Australian? How so?
> The American way of singing the alphabet, I think, kinda requires zee,
> but another version has come up when I was in grade six that works
> just as well with zed as zee, but is used primarily on the grounds
> that it doesn't trip up around elemenope (my younger brother was for a
> while convinced there was a letter men, f'rinstance).
ObConlang: the "Twinkle, Twinkle" tune works pretty well for singing the
E-o alphabet:
A B C Ĉ D E F /a bo tso tSo do E fo/
G Ĝ H Ĥ I J Ĵ /go dZo ho xo i jo Zo/
K L M N O P R /ko lo mo no o po ro/
S Ŝ T U Ŭ V Z /so So to u wo vo zo/
L'alfabeton diris mi /lalfabEton diris mi/
Ĉu nun povas ludi ni? /tSu nun povas ludi ni/
-Mark
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