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Re: nom/accu pronouns erg/abs everything else

From:Jeff Rollin <jeff.rollin@...>
Date:Monday, May 14, 2007, 17:25
In the last episode, on Mon, 14 May 2007 11:52:58 -0400, Tim Smith
<tim.langsmith@...> wrote:

> Reilly Schlaier wrote: > > my conlang just morphed in this weird thing (to me) > > i've got erg/abs alignment everywhere except in my pronouns > > anyone ever heard of that > > cause i havent > > and it seems very odd > > > > > > This is actually a fairly common pattern. IIRC, Guugu Yimidhirr (and > many other Australian languages) have nominative-accusative alignment > for all pronouns (or at least all personal pronouns) and > ergative-absolutive alignment for all nouns. > > Interestingly enough, it never works the other way; there are, AFAIK, > no known natlangs with nominative-accusative alignment for nouns and > ergative-absolutive alignment for pronouns. > > This is actually a specific instance of a more general principle. > There's an animacy hierarchy that seems to be more or less universal > cross-linguistically, that runs roughly as follows: > > 1st and 2nd person pronouns > 3rd person pronouns > animate nouns > > inanimate nouns > > If a given language has more than one alignment pattern, it's always > nom.-acc. for nominals higher on the hierarchy and erg.-abs. for > those lower, never the other way around. The cutoff point can be > anywhere on the hierarchy. There can even be two cutoff points, one > (point A) above which everything is nom.-acc. and another (point B) > below which everything is erg.-abs. If point A is above point B, you > get an area in between where neither alignment applies (thus no case > marking, or at least none for acc. or erg.); if point A is below > point B, you get an area of overlap in which there's a tripartite > system. I think all of these possibilities exist somewhere among the > Australian languages. > > - Tim (momentarily de-lurking)
This is interesting. Are there any languages which display a split nom-acc/tripartite system, e.g. Pronouns = Nom/Acc Everything Else = Erg/Acc/Nom or 1 & 2P = Nom/Acc 3P & EE = Erg/Acc/Nom? Jeff -- For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled. - Richard Phillips Feynman http://latedeveloper.org.uk

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