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Re: Introducing Paul Burgess and his radioactive imagination!

From:Sally Caves <scaves@...>
Date:Wednesday, March 12, 2003, 20:21
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From: "BP Jonsson" <bpj@...>

> At 11:04 8.3.2003 -0500, Sally Caves wrote: > > >The > >problem with thinking and talking in Teonaht is that it violates the
syntax
> >I'm used to, and you have to think of the object first. Even if you
front
> >the subject. That's the problem with analytic languages of unusual and > >twisted syntax. Writing is easier. > > Same thing with Sohlob. Its WO is VPA (Verb-Patient-Agent) which is of > course quite sensible for an ergative language, and works fine when I > write, but as soon as I try to speak/think without writing I slip into VAP > -- not that bad considering that there's case marking, but to a putative > native speaker it'ld sound like I was emphasizing the agent all the time, > which is not the correct idiom.
Well exactly... when I speak Teonaht, it turns into an SVO language in my mouth. Which sounds to the Teonim like a subordinant clause. (well, actually, a subordinant clause has VSO structure in T.) Sally Caves scaves@frontiernet.net Eskkoat ol ai sendran, rohsan nuehra celyil takrem bomai nakuo. "My shadow follows me, putting strange, new roses into the world."
> > > / B.Philip Jonsson B^) > -- > mailto:melrochX@melroch.net (delete X!) > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > No man forgets his original trade: the rights of nations and of kings sink > into questions of grammar, if grammarians discuss them. > -Dr. Samuel Johnson (1707 - 1784) >