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Re: Introducing Paul Burgess and his radioactive imagination!

From:H. S. Teoh <hsteoh@...>
Date:Wednesday, March 12, 2003, 18:35
On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 10:26:57AM +0100, BP Jonsson wrote:
> At 15:32 7.3.2003 -0500, H. S. Teoh wrote: > > >you can find out more about Ebisedian and judge for yourself whether it > >deserves its label of obscurity, here: > > > > Wow! It's even readable in that orthography! :-)
In fact, I much prefer that orthography than in the ASCII orthography which I use here only by necessity. The ASCII orthography is unconsciably ugly, as Jesse Bangs puts it, and is probably responsible for a large part of Ebisedian's freaklang reputation.
> How does that relate to the ASCIIfication you use in email?
The ASCII version simply substitutes the glyphs not representable in ASCII: - the smallcaps k, t, c, p with carets are written as K, T, C, P in the ASCII. - reverse epsilon is written as _3_ - omega is written as _w_ - o-slash is written as _0_ (I was thinking of the old slashed-zero glyph from the character sets of long ago.) - acute accent is indicated by suffixing with apostrophe (I know there are acute letters in ASCII, but they are missing a few important letters so I decided to use apostrophe for everything, for consistency's sake) - macron is indicated by duplicating the vowel (so a-macron is written _aa_); adjacent identical vowels have an extra hyphen between them because otherwise they are misread as a single long vowel. - smooth accent (the tear-drop accent) is indicated by prefixing with a backtick (`). - subscript tilde (nasality) is indicated by suffixing with tilde (~).
> > The abrupt breathing, which is the normal vowel breathing, is pro- > >nounced with a preceding glottal stop. For example, ¡ is pronounced > >[Pi], and a¡ is pronounced [PaPi]. > >3 > > The smooth breathing, indicated as ` a, is pronounced with a preceding > >semivowel. For example, ` ¡ is pronounced [ji], ` y is pronounced [4y], ` u > >is pronounced [wu], and ` a is pronounced [a > > > >a]. > > The rough breathing, indicated as ha, is pronounced with a preceding > >unvoiced glottal fricative. For example, h 3 is pronounced [h9:]. > > This is exactly like Tibetan. Did you steal it there, somewhere else or in > thin air?
[snip] Actually, I came up with it independently. It was only later when I was struggling to find an IPA representation for it that somebody pointed out that Tibetan also has it. Yet another anadewism. :-) T -- Never ascribe to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence. -- Napoleon Bonaparte


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