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Re: Language and "mysticism," whatever that is.

From:Frank George Valoczy <valoczy@...>
Date:Saturday, April 28, 2001, 20:04
Hello again Sally!

> 1) How many of you old- and new-comers started inventing a language > in isolation from the list?
I did.
> > 1a) If so, how old were you?
10.
> 1b) Was it a project with friends or a solitary project?
Started solitary but grew to involve some of my friends.
> 1b) Did your invented language have some kind of private purpose? > esoteric? erotic? religious or mystical?
It was the Transformers language, the language the Transformers spoke on Cybertron...my hypothesis was that they don't speak English there...
> > Since the topic of my panel is "the language of mysticism," > I'm especially interested in this last. > > 2) How many of you newcomers heard of the list first and thought-- > Wow! I think I'll try my hand at conlanging!
Not I.
> > 3) How many of you, when you were starting out on this on your own, > did this kind of thing: you have a list of words you want to invent > new ones for, so you drew di-and polysyllabic words out of the air. > This is > what I did when I was new at this and a teenager. Many of these still > remain vocabulary words in Teonaht, but I've since then learned to build > up through word roots.
We only ended up with three phrases: hello: /x:::::::::/ IIRC, this meant goodbye: (alternating hi-lo pitch squeal) bugger off!: /ananho~::::/ The words and glosses might be mixed up in the above...it's been a long time...
> > 4) If so, how important was it that the new word sound "exotic," > "beautiful," or > "suggestive" in some personal way of the word you wanted it to stand > for?
It had to sound like a race of robots would speak it
> > 5) How many of you invented words to express concepts that could not be > expressed in your native language?
Since then, I have, many.
> > 6) How many of you used it for prayer? For secrecy?
That one, no. Others, yes.
> > 7) For how many of you was it an intellectual exercise?
For me, it is.
> > 8) A language for a conculture?
That too, some.
> > 9) How many of you newcomers (and I see a lot of names I don't > recognize > in the six months I've been away) heard of the list first and thought-- > Wow! I think I'll try my hand at conlanging! > > 10) What is your definition of a mystical language? Would any of you > characterize your conlang as such? >
I dunno...to me mystical languages are Old Norse and Church Slavic...Latin by proxy... -------ferko Ferenc Gy. Valoczy Suurt chugunikka peene ahjo suhe et toukka. Virtual Votia - Vaddjamaa Internetaza: http://www.geocities.com/uralica railways page: http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/3976/ 25kV 50Hz: http://www.mp3.com/25kV50Hz