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Re: Cein

From:Andreas Johansson <and_yo@...>
Date:Thursday, May 31, 2001, 20:09
Daniel Andreasson wrote:
>Andreas Johansson wrote: > > > Daniel Andreasson wrote: > > >I fail to see where the common Sindarin adjective ending > > >-eb, -en and -ui come from. Does anyone know? It's probably > > >a development from Eldarin in which case I should ignore > > >them since Cein is based on Quenya. > > > _-en_ is from CE _inaa_, and is thus cognate of Q _ina_ > > (eg _latina_ "open"). _-eb_ is said to be from _-ikwaa_ (in > > Quendi and Eldar IRC) - Q for some reason uses the nasal > > -infixed version _-inqua_ (cf Q _alcarinqua_ and S _aglareb_, > > from *aklarinkwaa and *aklarikwaa respectively). > >Aha! I didn't know you were *that* much of an expert >on CE. Thanks!
That's what having read QaE and the Ardalambion's Primitive Elvish article more times than you and I have fingers together does to you! :-)
> >Q. _-inqua_ would be _-eng_ in Cein, I think. Though I >like the look of _-eg_ better. I could also have _-eb_ >as a borrowing from Sindarin or adapt _-ikwaa_ into Cein >_ec_. _Alcarinqua_ would thus be _alcheng_ or _alcheg_. > > > As for _-ui_, I don't know. _-oo-yaa_ would be a possible origin. > >What does _-oo-yaa_ mean?
_-oo_ is a very common nominal ending, and _-yaa_ an even more common adjectival ending. So *_-oo-yaa_ would be what you get if you first form an noun from a root and then turn it into an adjective. But I'm no Sindarin expert, and I had actually never really thought about Sindarin _-ui_ before I saw your mail. I'll ask the sages on Elfling, me thinks.
> > > As for Cein, you won't be able to get around -en, seeing it's > > cognate to be quite common in Q. > >Yes, I already have that one as a common adjectival >ending. So now I have _-en_ and _-e(n)g_, and possibly >_-ec_ and _eb_ as well. That should suffice. :)
That'd give some choice, yes. I'm starting to like Cein. Andreas _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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