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Re: Fluency Wish-List

From:Irina Rempt <ira@...>
Date:Monday, April 17, 2000, 17:05
On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, Matt Pearson wrote:

Doug wrote:

> >Skerre handles the animal legs with the dual plural.
I've never given much thought to animal legs, but Valdyan might do something similar - a person, after all, has _ibar_ "two feet" (no "leg" just yet) and a horse might have _ibari_ "pairs of feet". It works the same with other pairs: _nane_ "mother", _inane_ "parents" (that is, someone's father and mother) _inani_ "parents" (several parents, for instance all the parents of a class in school).
> inna "eye" > inie "pair of eyes" > > mol "hand" > molie "pair of hands"
I like those words! Can I steal "mol" and "molie"? (Not to mean "hand", there's already a word for that, but there's probably something that fits).
> Words like "inie" and "molie" take a singular determiner when referring > to a single person's pair of parts, and a plural determiner when referring > to more than one pair, so Sally's "raise your hand(s)" example can be > disambiguated four ways: > > tiyisò mol > raise.Imp-the.Sg hand > "raise your hand" > [talking to one person]
All right, I'll play: rainea hinay hand-acc-s raise-PRS-2s "raise your hand" (the present-tense second person serves as imperative)
> tiyisots mol > raise.Imp-the.Pl hand > "raise your hands" > [each person raise one hand]
rainena hinaye hand-acc-p raise-PRS-2p "raise your hands" This is not in the dual, so it's clear that though several hands are to be raised, nobody raises both hands.
> tiyisò molie > raise.Imp-the.Sg pair.of.hands > "raise your hands" > [talking to one person]
iraina hinay d-hand-acc-s raise-PRS-2s "raise your hands" Note that "pair of hands" gets both the dual prefix and the singular inflection.
> tiyisots molie > raise.Imp-the.Pl pair.of.hands > "raise your hands" > [everybody raise both hands]
irainena hinaye d-hand-acc-p raise-PRS-2p "raise your hands" And here there's the dual prefix and the plural inflection. Irina -- Varsinen an laynynay, saraz no arlet rastynay. irina@valdyas.org (myself) - http://valdyas.conlang.org (Valdyas) http://www.valdyas.org/irina/index.html (home)