Re: Mood name?
|From:||Thomas R. Wier <trwier@...>|
|Date:||Sunday, June 15, 2003, 4:24|
Quoting daniel andreasson <danielandreasson@...>:
> Andreas Johansson wrote:
> > Anyway, I was looking for suggestions for a latinesque name for a
> > mood indicating that the speaker is merely relaying information
> > without making any claim as to its being true or not. It would
> > typically be used in indirect speech. I seem to recall that Quechua
> > has an infection indicating this. Any suggestions?
> It sounds much like an evidential of some kind. Though evidentials
> rather say how you came to know something (inference, hearsay,
> direct evidence - you actually saw it, or perhaps you heard it).
> This mood of yours sounds more like a veridical marker, telling
> something about the truth of the information (that you don't
> know if it's true :).
> Perhaps you can simply call this marker "veridical" if you don't
> have any other truth-marking particles? Or "validational"? Though
> neither of these say that you don't claim anything about the
> statement's truth. Perhaps "non-veridical" or "non-validational"? :)
I guess the question also depends on how the morphology
patterns. In Phaleran, such veridicality can be marked in
one of two ways: with the irrealis mood, which is fusional
with the person, number, and obviation features; or the
evidential suffixes themselves. The two are mutually
distinct and mutually independent, and both realis/irrealis
and evidentials must be present in verb inflection. Compare:
be-sober.INTR.3PlProgIr.Q [irrealis, quotative]
"Though we're told we are sober"
be-sober.INTR.3PlProgIr.S [irrealis, sensory]
"Though I can tell we're sober"
be-sober.INTR.3PlProgIr.C [irrealis, cognitive]
"Though I know we're sober"
Here, the function of the irrealis is little more than
to subordinate one clause to another, while the evidential
suffixes carry quite distinct, and a more limited range of,
functions. In the case of Phaleran, then, veridicality is
a distinct category, and must be treated separately from mood.
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