Re: Voiced Velar Fricative

 --- Christophe Grandsire
<christophe.grandsire@...> wrote: > En réponse à
Christopher Bates
> <christopher.bates@...>:
>
> > Is gh (i don't know the ascii ways of representing
> IPA sounds,
>
> In X-SAMPA, it's [G].
>
>  but I
> > mean a voiced velar fricative) common?
>
> Somewhat. Southern dialects of Dutch have it
> (Northern ones have [x], the
> voiceless velar fricative, instead), and it's often
> there in languages which
> have /x/, whether as an allophone or as a phoneme.
>
>  I think english used to have
> > the
> > sound, as did welsh (or at least g used to be
> mutated to gh a long
> > time
> > ago) but for some reason it disappeared.
>
> Irish Gaelic still has it IIRC. It the way the broad
> |dh| and |gh| are
> pronounced (at least according to the sites I've
> seen about Irish
> pronunciation).
as does scots gaelic :

| tha mi 'g iarraidh dhol dhachaidh |
~/ha mi k iri Gol Gaxi/
'i want to go home'

bn

=====
bnathyuw | landan | arR
stamp the sunshine out | angelfish
your tears came like anaesthesia | phèdre

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