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Re: Voiced Velar Fricative

From:Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>
Date:Thursday, December 19, 2002, 16:58
En réponse à Christopher Bates <christopher.bates@...>:

> Is gh (i don't know the ascii ways of representing IPA sounds,
In X-SAMPA, it's [G]. but I
> mean a voiced velar fricative) common?
Somewhat. Southern dialects of Dutch have it (Northern ones have [x], the voiceless velar fricative, instead), and it's often there in languages which have /x/, whether as an allophone or as a phoneme. I think english used to have
> the > sound, as did welsh (or at least g used to be mutated to gh a long > time > ago) but for some reason it disappeared.
Irish Gaelic still has it IIRC. It the way the broad |dh| and |gh| are pronounced (at least according to the sites I've seen about Irish pronunciation). I just wondered because I
> love > the sound for some reason but I don't want to add it if its extremely > uncommon in natural languages. Thanks in advance, >
I think it's a common sound in many languages (I just cannot find many examples currently :))) ). I think modern Greek has it too, but I'm not completely sure about that. If you have for instance a language where all fricatives have both a voiceless and voiced counterpart and you have /x/, you can safely add /G/ :) . Christophe. Take your life as a movie: do not let anybody else play the leading role.


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