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Re: Numbers ancient & modern (was: Unilang report)

From:Raymond Brown <ray.brown@...>
Date:Wednesday, May 23, 2001, 19:01
At 12:41 am +0200 23/5/01, daniel andreasson wrote:
>Ray Brown a écrit: > >> This is not universal in the francophone world where >> _nonante six_ occurs in many dialects; it was originally >> a peculiarity of "Francien" and is considered by some to >> be due to substrate Gallic influence. > >Ah oui? Mes cousins de Genève, ils disent _neuvante_ au lieu >de _quatre-vingt dix_, et pas _nonante_. Ou peut-être, ils >c'épelent _neufante_.
Interesting - I've not come across _neuvante_ before; but then my neighbors were Belgian :)
>Quoique, ils disent _septante_ et _huitante_ comme John >Cowan déjà a dit.
So John's _huitante_ is attested in Swiss French. We live and learn. I guess that under the influence of _sept_ ~ _septante_, the older _octante_ and _nonante_ (which surely show learned influence) have given way to analogically formed _huitante_ and _neuvante_. Ray. ========================================= A mind which thinks at its own expense will always interfere with language. [J.G. Hamann 1760] =========================================