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Re: Phonemic vowel and consonant length.

From:Dirk Elzinga <dirk_elzinga@...>
Date:Monday, February 3, 2003, 17:18
At 10:25 PM -0800 2/1/03, Josh Brandt-Young wrote:
>Quoth Steven Williams: > >> 3. Quite a few languages hold phonemic consonant length contrasts--Italian, >> Japanese, Finnish and so on. Is it at all common, or even possible, to have a >> three-level distinction? In stops? > >In fact, Estonian, which you mentioned earlier in the context of a triple >vowel-length distinction, also has three stop lengths: > >[lina] "linen" >[lin:a] "town" (genitive) >[lin::a] "town" (short illative) > >However, the distinction between long and overlong (as they call it) isn't >used to distinguish different *words* AFAIK, but only in the declension of >the noun. Still, that's some pretty weird stuff.
In an important paper from 1980, Alan Prince showed that Estonian Q3 is a prosodic feature of stems and not a length feature of individual consonants or vowels. As you mention, overlength only shows up for certain inflectional categories. I posted on Estonian prosody a while ago on this list; check the archives. In fact, a feature of Miapimoquitch prosody was inspired by the Estonian alternation. Predicates which are unbound in phase (roughly a conflation of imperfective aspect and indefinite reference) must begin with a heavy syllable; predicates which are bound in phase have no such requirement. Dirk -- Dirk Elzinga Dirk_Elzinga@byu.edu "It is important not to let one's aesthetics interfere with the appreciation of fact." - Stephen Anderson