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Re: Ygyde as an IAL

From:Eamon Graham <robertg@...>
Date:Saturday, January 25, 2003, 10:53
Joe, I think you do a good job breaking down the situation for us!

Joseph Fatula wrote:

> I come to the conlang list with a question: Is Ygyde plausible?
Before I begin, standard disclaimer: I think the idea of an IAL is interesting, but I am not an "active supporter" of the idea nor do I have any IAL of my own to offer (and heaven know's I never will!). IAL projects that have been offered in the past are interesting to me in the same way that Ygyde is interesting to me: they are conlangs, some of them are quite good - **as conlangs**. When I first discovered Esperanto and Solresol at - what? the age of nine? - they were interesting to me as conlangs, and that's still how I look at them. In fact, I think they are quite artistic - but good art does not necessarily a good auxlang make. What makes a good auxlang? I don't know and I don't wanna know. :) To cut it short: I love conlangs - whatever their original or stated purpose - and I'm not a defender or detractor of any language _as auxlang_. I certainly don't want to debate with anyone the merits or demerits of the idea of auxlangs or auxlangs themselves etc. etc. etc. :) Having said that: It is my *personal* opinion - take it or leave it - that Ygyde (like many other philosophical languages - is not plausible as an auxlang. I think philosophical languages are terribly interesting and display a depth of intellect that blows me away *however* I don't think an auxlang should be as complicated as most philosophical languages are - some of them have grammars the size and style of computer programming language manuals, and my enfeebled mind never got past BASIC. I think logical languages (like Lojban) and philosophical languages (like Ygyde) are terribly interesting, I even see artistic applications (Victor Medrano has at least one artlang that uses logic-based grammar). But does an auxlang need the elaborate system of colour definition, for example? Frankly, I just need a way to say "redish" or "bluish." I think such a system is unneeded in an auxlang - but when I see a *conlang* that offers me the ability to be so precise in just one word I have to stand back and say "wow!" If Andrew came to me one day and showed me Ygyde as an artistic-intellectual language I'd say "Don't change a thing, I love it!" I think the two fellows who worked on it are obviously intelligent and creative. But as an auxlang I think it may be too smart for its own good. I enjoy the exercise of intellect - it's inspiring to me as an intellectual and an artist. I think it could have artistic and intellectual applications. Surrealism would be deadly with a tool such as Ygyde. Look at Solresol for example: a language entirely musical - outrageous! Auxlang? I dunno... No hard feelings, love you all... ;) My two Eurocents, Eamon

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