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Re: This is not a conlang.

From:Sally Caves <scaves@...>
Date:Tuesday, November 23, 2004, 16:36
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From: "Adrian Morgan (aka Flesh-eating Dragon)" <dragon@...>


> Sally Caves wrote, quoting myself where indicated: > >> I'll qualify that again. If it doesn't have a translation, it would >> be difficult to determine that it was gibberish. But try putting a >> translation to it. Then you would run into difficulties. > > I made a start on trying to extrapolate a grammatical structure in > another post. I'm sure it could be done, but not if a corresponding > translation were created a priori.
Well, that's what I mean. What tipped me off for the Tenga was the translation.
>> > If you're ever in Adelaide we'll have to practice on each other. I'd >> > enjoy that :-) >> >> HA! Adelaide it is, next stop! Maybe we could get Richard K. to come >> down, >> too. He likes to do this kind of thing, as I described. > > The only conlangers I've met in person are Irina and Boudewijn, and > that was when I was in Europe in February 2000 (it was Irina who gave > me the address of the List). I spoke a bit of gibberish to Irina > whilst on the train to Utrecht.
Ah yes! Long time conlangers. So did either of the Rempts return with same? :)
>> > Devil's advocate (even though that's rather an ironic phrase in >> > context): >> >> :) >> >> > an angelic language could very easily not express the >> > concept of God as a lexical item; the concept would more likely be >> > embedded in the grammar in less regular ways. :-) >> >> Right, that is, if you believe in an "angelic language" with an >> interpretable grammar, and words that have some kind of >> correspondence to things of the Real World. It's very appealing to > > Of course, I /was/ only playing Devil's Advocate, and entirely agree > with your scepticism on the matter.
Does anybody have an answer to my question about the statement I quoted: "A bird could fly between the subject and predicate of God's language." I heard it in my Latin class thirty years ago. In other words, the language of God is a language that is inconceivable for human beings, in that it erases the difference between abstraction and concretion, signifier and signified. It might not be anybody medieval, but a modern scholar who is attempting to explain negative philosophy, or apophasis.
> BTW, since you weren't around at the time, I'm vaguely curious about > what you think of the significant events in the recent history of the > list, in particular the flag?
I don't know anything about the flag. What is this? I've only heard hints. And what other significant events in recent history? Sally