Re: `bin' or `ibn' Ladin?

On Tue, 30 Oct 2001 23:38:19 EST David Peterson <DigitalScream@...>
writes:
>     And, of course, I meant [?asaam], not [?asaan].  Oops!  And the
> way they
> keep starting it with "o" makes me wonder if it's not an alef waw
> initial
> cluster which can give rise to [o] in some dialects.
>
> -David
>
-

I remember seeing it written in Arabic on TV once... and i remember that
"Osama" was spelled:
alif(hamza)-siin-alif-miim-taa.marbuTaa.  I think "bin Laden" was
something like baa-nuun laam-alif-daal-nuun, so something like  /?usa:ma
bin la:din/.  "Osama" was actually one of the 'see if you can recognize
these names' on my Arabic test.
And about _bin_ vs. _ibn_, my textbook also said that "bin" is for
between names while "ibn" is for at the beginning.  It gave the example
of someone named _ibn Ruumi_ whose full name was _..... bin .... bin
...._.


-Stephen (Steg)
"alo!"