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Re: basic morphemes of a loglang

From:Nik Taylor <yonjuuni@...>
Date:Monday, December 1, 2003, 3:25
Paul Bennett wrote:
> The different Japanese counting words? I don't know the technical term (nor > enough Japanese to quote them), but they're a gender system if ever I saw > one
They're not gender, they're classifier. The term is Counter, and they're *only* used with numbers.
> and wa/ga/etc mark subject and so forth in non-gender ways
? They're cases, nothing more.
> And pronouns? Does Japanese even have "real" pronouns?
What do you mean by "real" pronouns? Pronouns that work the same way as in the IE languages, such that they cannot be etymologically traced back to nouns (altho, even there, you have things like "Usted" < Vuestra merced), and that have their own inflections? If so, no. But, if you mean words that are used like IE pronouns, such that a given word refers to the speaker, and can only mean the speaker, then yes, several: First person: Watashi, Atashi, Boku, Ore, Washi (mostly only by older speakers) Second person: Anata, kimi, kisama, omae Third person: Kare, kanojo Of course, nouns are frequently used as "pseudo-pronouns", such that _sensei_ (teacher) can mean "I" if used by a teacher, "you" if used by a student adressing a teacher, "he/she" if used to refer to said teacher. -- "There's no such thing as 'cool'. Everyone's just a big dork or nerd, you just have to find people who are dorky the same way you are." - overheard ICQ: 18656696 AIM Screen-Name: NikTaylor42

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