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Re: CHAT: use of "they"

From:Nik Taylor <fortytwo@...>
Date:Sunday, September 27, 1998, 0:37
Baba wrote:
> I must admit this throws me a bit. An example was a US Fire-Drill > poster which said "Make sure all personnel is outside and accounted for".
I'm an American, but that sentence just sounds wrong. I'd say "all personnel ARE outside", since "all personnel" has an inherently plural nature. On the other hand, if it were "make sure the staff is outside", that would make sense.
> or the sentences; "Which one of them is a doctor? None of them is." > In both cases I'd expect "are" not "is".
Even with "which one" you'd use are? The English used in the Constitution does that "the United States or any are under their jurisdiction" - later amendments use the phrasing "the United States or any area under the jurisdiction thereof", avoiding the whole number issue altogether! I've read that it wasn't until the Civil War that we began saying "the United States *is*", as opposed to "the United States *are*", the explanation given was that after the Civil War, we viewed ourselves as a *nation* ("is"), whereas before we viewed ourselves as a *union* of sovereign states ("are"). -- "Public media should not contain explicit or implied descriptions of sex acts. Our society should be purged of the perverts who provide the media with pornographic material while pretending it has some redeeming social value under the public's 'right to know.'" - Kenneth Star, 1987 ICQ: 18656696 AOL IM: Nik Tailor