Re: ML4 again (was Re: More questions)

Tiëhţäk öpö Jütııcz Pıńgëp:

["t_j@xT{k 2f2 "jyT1t_js\ "p1_njg@p_}]  :)

 > K'tabba Stephen Mulraney:
 >
 >>Now, now, patience! I don't think anyone wants daily updates
 >>on how ["}kt@k "tsn}ldZ}_nj@h keT_je]
 >>means "The officer threw the man" or the like (as you can see,
 >>I'm a bit short of vocabulary at the moment... not that *that's*
 >>ever likely to be resolved). To say a bit more, ML4 is shaping up
 >>to be a trigger language, with ergative knobs on. Vowel harmony.
 >>Palatized/Nonpalatalised consonant series. Initial mutations.
 >>Polish/Hungarian orthography. Russian/Irish phonetics. Congealing
 >>very, very slowly. The phonetics have been in production about 8
 >>months :)

 > Bah! That's cruel. [T_j] is definitely beyond my speech abilities...

Ho ho... sorry :) I can make a sound that satisfies _me_, but how close
it is to any notion of /T_j/ I know not.

But, notice the [] rather than the // :) I *think* it might (sometimes?
always?) just be realised as a palatal /s/. Normal unpalatal [s] is
dental in ML4, like in Russian; palatalised [s_j] is lamino-alveolar.
(I'm assuming here that English [s] is about _apico-alveolar_: in other
words, ML4's [s_j] is articulated at the same place as English's [s],
but the tongue is flattened slightly more)

 > Successes,
 > -- Yitzik

By the way, I only realised that Russian had a dental [s] (and [z]) when
reading the _English_ pronunciation section of my Russian dictionary:
For /T/ [/D/], it says

   произносится как русское _с_ [_з_], но кончик языка
   находится между зубами

By the way, bis, your name has the first to have the honour to be
mangled into my new phonology - see the first line of this message. :)

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