Re: CHAT: XS vs. Kirshenbaum vs. Who-knows-what

John Cowan wrote, quoting myself and respectively Tristan:

> > > As I recognised ('... certain mnemonic properties ...'). The problem is
> > > also aesthetic, of course, but that hardly counts for much... But how
> > > would you the equivalent of [d&:n(t)s]? Would you just have to say
> > > '[d&:ns] or [d&:nts]'? Even '[d&:ns], [-nts]' seems awfully long-winded.
> >
> > I'm not sure what you're trying to say. You seem to be asking me
> > something about x-sampa [d{:n&tQs] (I don't have a cxs chart in front
> > of me, sorry).
>
> The point is that parens are used conventionally in IPA transcriptions
> to indicate a sound which may or may not be pronounced; thus "dance"
> may or may not have a [t] in it -- for me it definitely does, YPMV.
> If you pre-empt them for sounds, you have to find a substitute for
> this usage.
Are they? I don't recall seeing this usage in use on the list or
elsewhere, and nor can I find it mentioned in any transcription
charts, SAMPA or otherwise.

I don't believe I've ever heard "dance" pronounced without a [t]. I
generally hear it with [a:] rather than a [&:]. So for me, the two
pronunciations are [da:nts] (most common) and [d&:nts} (some speakers).
How would you indicate *these* alternatives? Would you put them
together as [d(a:/&:)nts] ?

I'm leaving this as-is for the time being.

I noticed, however, that I absent-mindedly used [/] while forgetting
that it's a phonemic deliminator. So here's what I'll do. Replace [/]
with [|], making it the same as x-sampa, replace [|] (x-sampa [M])
with [=], and discard [=].

Version 0.2 therefore reads as follows:

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Working Title: "FITS - Frivolous IPA Transcription Scheme" version 0.2

Consonants

   bil    lad    dap     ret    pal    vel    uv     pha    gl
+------+------+-------+------+------+------+------+------+------+
|     m|     M|      n|    n`|    N~|     N|    N`|      |      | nas
|p    b|      |t     d|t`  d`|k~  g~|k    g|k`  g`|      |?     | plos
|    b*|      |     r*|      |      |      |    g*|      |      | tr
|      |      |     d*|   d`*|      |      |      |      |      | t/fl
|P    B|f    v|TsS DzZ|s`  z`|K~  G~|K    G|K`  G`|h~  H~|h    H| fric
|      |      |x     X|      |      |      |      |      |      | lat fric
|      |     V|      r|    r`|     j|     J|      |      |      | appr
|      |      |      l|    l`|    L~|     L|      |      |      | lat appr
|    b}|      |     d}|      |   g~}|    g}|   g`}|      |      | vd implos
+------+------+-------+------+------+------+------+------+------+

[p!] bilabial click          [p^] bilabial ejective
[T!] dental click            [t^] dental/aveolar ejective
[t!] (post)alveolar click    [k^] velar ejective
[s!] palatoalveolar click    [s^] alveolar fricative ejective
[l!] alveolar lateral click

[W]  voiceless labial-velar fricative   [K$] voiceless epiglottal fricative
[w]  voiced labial-velar approximant    [G$] voiced epiglottal fricative
[w~] voiced labial-palatal approximant  [k$] epiglottal plosive
[l*] alveolar lateral flap              [s$] voiceless alveopalatal fricative
[#]  velarised /l/                      [z$] voiced alveopalatal fricative

[{]  begin double articulation or affricate (when necessary)

Vowel diagram

      unrounded                       rounded
+-------------------+          +-------------------+
| i       i>      = |   clsd   | y       u<      u |
|   I     I>        |          |   Y     U<    U   |
|                   |          |                   |
| e       @-      q | mid-clsd | c       R-      o |
|         @         |          |         R         |
| E       @+      Q | mid-open | C       R+      O |
|                   |          |                   |
| &       %         |          |                   |
| a               A |   open   | (               ) |
+-------------------+          +-------------------+
frnt    ctrl     back          frnt     ctrl    back

Diacritics and Suprasegmentals

[\T] dental                       [\<]  advanced
[\t] apical                       [\>]  retracted
[\s] laminal                      [\-]  raised
[\p] linguolabial                 [\+]  lowered
[\w] labialised                   [\%]  centralised
[\j] palatised (or [\~])          [\@]  mid centralised
[\k] velarised                    [\o]  more rounded
[\H] pharangealised               [\e]  less rounded
[\K] velarised or pharangealised  [\G<] advanced tongue root
[\N] nasalised                    [\G>] retracted tongue root
[\R] rhoticity

[\f] voiceless           ["]  begin primary stress          [:]  long
[\v] voiced              [']  begin secondary stress        [;]  half long
[\F] breathy voiced      [,]  syllabic break                [\.] extra short
[\V] creaky voiced       [|]  minor (foot) group            [_]  syllabic
[\h] aspirated           [||] major (intonation) group      [.]  non syllabic
[\n] nasal release       [\\] linking (absence of a break)
[\l] lateral release
[\_] no audible release

Tones not implemented

Meta Comments

The following letters are not used in [\x] digraphs:  abcd  g i   mn  qr  u  xyz
                                                      ABCDE   IJ LM  PQ  TU  XYZ

Numbers 0-9 are not used at all.
Numbers 0 and 1 should be avoided lest confusion arise with O and l.

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