Re: (Offlist) Re: ASCII IPA

 --- Javier BF <uaxuctum@...> wrote:
>
> That's the rule for non-rhotic dialects, at least
> British,
> when a previous r sound existed and was dropped. The
> r is
> preserved when in liaison, in the same way French
> preserves
> "muted" final consonants in such cases. Evidently,
> this is
> not the case with "idea" and "Cuba", which, as you
> say, are
> simply hypercorrections.
>
>
> >As one who grew up with rhotic speech, I can tell
> you that such
> >pronunciations were considered utterly ignorant by
> our teachers.
>
> And, I guess, by everyone used to the orthography,
> too.
>
not at all. pedants make fun of them, but
pronunciation without intrusive 'r's can sound rather
stilted

the classic example is /,lO:.r@n.'O:.d@/ for |law and
order|, but you can pronounce that /lO:@n.'O:.d@/

stranger but more entrenched examples are words like
|sawing| /'sO:.r\IN/, where /'sO:.IN/ ends up sounding
like a childish lisp : /'SO:.wIN/

i'ld be tempted to say that the intrusive 'r' isn't
based at all on orthography, but is a way of stopping
the vowels /@/ /A:/ /I:/ /E:/ /O:/ &c coalescing with
a following vowel

you could even hear |is the window open|
/,Iz.D@.'wIn.d@.,r\VU.p@n/ but this is based on a
non-standard pronunciation of |window|

bn

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