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rhotics (was: Hellenish oddities)

From:BP Jonsson <bpj@...>
Date:Saturday, November 25, 2000, 10:18
Keith Alasdair Mylchreest wrote on how to trill r's:

>Try saying [tr] or perhaps [tDr], I think that's how I finally got there.
That won't help those many Americans whose /tr/ and /dr/ are in fact [.t.s] and [.d.z], i.e. retroflex affricates... I understand that I'm fortunate to be a native speaker of a language which has several allophones of /r/ -- apical, uvular, taps, trills, fricatives, approximants -- in idiolectal and dialectal variation, tho truth to say the "weaker" variants predominate. Since childhood I can manage a broad range of these allophones, tho alveolar tap and retroflex approximant predominate in my own ordinary speech, distributed according to rather consistent rules: pre- and inter-vocalic /r/ is the tap, and post-vocalic is the approximant. I wonder how widespread lgs with more than one "r" phoneme are? Spanish is famous for its r/rr, Portuguese and Occitan have r/R, but beyond that? What about people's conlangs? Wanic has a slew of laterals but only one rhotic. / B.Philip Jonsson B^)> -- (delete .nospam) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "If a language is a dialect with an army and a navy, of what language, pray, is Basque a dialect?" (R.A.B.)