Re: valency question
From: | Roger Mills <romilly@...> |
Date: | Friday, May 11, 2001, 21:53 |
Amanda Babcock wrote:
>To me, these two examples of "call" are two separate words, and would be
>separate words in a conlang, unless I wanted it to be a European conlang.
>
>One word is "to call, to summon", with a single object.
>
>The other one would be "to call, to name, to refer to as", with two
objects,
>which you could keep as two objects distinguished, perhaps, by case, or
>you could move one of the objects into a prepositional phrase - or you
could
>noun-incorporate one of them! "John ugly-called the cat"!
>
>Amanda
>"Mom, he ugly-called me!!!" heehee
What a wise solution; it just happens to coincide closely with how Kash
deals with the problem.
-yamen 'to call, call out, summon', takes dat., mayamen Shenjiye 'I called
Shenji'
-lepes 'to call= refer to s.t. as...' takes anim.dat., inanim.acc., the
complement is nom. (if a noun): Mina yalepes Shenjiye Cici 'Mina calls
Shenji "Chichi"; ele yu milepes uku 'we call that plant uku ~that plant is
called uku' ; (ya)trakambo re halepes kashe yonji 'it's impolite to call
someone 'little cock'; (the caus. rundepes means 'to describe': rundepeska
ele uku 'describe(imper.) the uku plant')
Others:
-pilimen 'to consider s.t. as ...., be of the opinion that...': ne
mipilimen feliyo 'we consider him a fool'; mipilimen re yale angayi ri
latondrelen ya 'we are of the opinion that there is life on that planet.'
-pila-pila 'to consider, ponder, think over' < pila 'to think': ipila-pila
kracalni 'they considered the problem'
-vele aran, lit. give name, 'to name' (objs in dat/nom, like _lepes_; the
name given[nom] follows aran directly): ivele aran Shenji anayeni ~anayeni
ivele aran Sh. 'they named their child Shenji'
-caus. rumaran 'to name, to appoint': mirumaran Shenjiye kataren ~ Shenjiye
mirumaran kataren 'we named Shenji(dat.) (as, to be) leader(nom)'
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