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Re: ANNOUNCE: First longer sentence in S7

From:Henrik Theiling <theiling@...>
Date:Tuesday, April 6, 2004, 20:25
Hi!

Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...> writes:
>... > Actually, if you read Descartes (in the original Latin) you'll > discover that the sentence he wrote doesn't contain a "therefore", nor > any other connector for that matter. It is "I think, I am", *not* "I > think, therefore I am"
Ah! This is exactly the kind of reply I had hoped for! So *all* the versions I've seen are actually, well, wrong, presumably.
> The sentence is a declaration of *EQUALITY*: I think = I am.
Ok, it makes perfect sense then. It also makes some additional translations necessary. I will have to think about which evidentials to use. Maybe juxtaposition of two sentences in 'experiential' evidence. 'I experience thinking. I experience being.' Since I have grammatical reciprocals in valence, I could try to use 'equal' with reciprocal valence.
> For whatever could exist besides ego (which Descartes spends the > remaining five of his six metaphysical meditations trying to find > out, unconvincingly in my opinion), thinking and being are different > things.
If this is a consequence of the first equality, I'd rather think that you can simply not say anything about things beyond ego. Mightbe they think, mightbe they are. But it is no implication that thinking and being *are* different (for others). But only might be, in contrast to me. Or did I miss something again?
> That's what the "cogito, sum" (the correct quote) means.
I'll try to quote it correctly from now on. :-) **Henrik