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Re: ANNOUNCE: First longer sentence in S7

From:Chris Bates <christopher.bates@...>
Date:Tuesday, April 6, 2004, 20:21
> > Actually, if you read Descartes (in the original Latin) you'll > discover that the sentence he wrote doesn't contain a "therefore", nor > any other connector for that matter. It is "I think, I am", *not* "I > think, therefore I am" (a common mistranslation that was already > common in his time, and that he fought against all his life). The > sentence is *not* a law of logic. It is *not* an implication, it is > *not* a cause-and-effect description. The sentence is a declaration of > *EQUALITY*: I think = I am. It's the ultimate, undoubtable foundation > of a philosophy based on getting rid on anything doubtable in order to > find a solid foundation. The ego can't doubt its own existence for the > simple reason that it is doing the thinking, the doubting, at the very > moment it tries to doubt it, and reciprocally the ego exists as a > purely thinking being, because anything else (the body, the > sensations, etc...) have been doubted away (not because they don't > exist, but because there is no proof, at the current level of thought, > that they are more than mirages. The basis for Cartesianism is pure > skeptism).
Does I think therefore I am imply cause and effect? How is this different to: he is dead => he is not alive or ab = 1 => a = 1/b Neither of these are cause and effect, but they are implications, and equality of the truth of statements ("I think", "I am") necessarily means I think <==> I am which necessarily means I think => I am I am => I think Therefore "I think therefore I am" comes from "I think, I am" using your interpretation. It is only a half statement of what descartes said if he meant "I think = I am", but "I think therefore I am" is not false if "I think = I am" is true. I don't for that matter agree with it if that was what he meant, but I never liked philosophy, and I'm just pointing out that he did (indirectly) say "I think therefore I am", if he said "I think = I am".

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Mark J. Reed <markjreed@...>
Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>CHAT Cartesian parataxis (was: ANNOUNCE: First longer sentence in S7)