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Re: grumbles

From:James Campbell <james@...>
Date:Friday, April 21, 2000, 8:26
ik skreau:

> > A Dutch-[West] Frisian dictionary, published by AFûK, I think. > > A quaint little pamphlet entitled "Notes on Frisian", which includes
some
> > guessed-at grammar (all I could find). > > A multilingual dictionary, "Snaak Friisk!", with English, Danish, German
and
> > 5 varieties of Frisian. > > > > There are other more worthy tomes, I'm sure, but my Dutch is not that
good
> > that I could cope with a 20-volume Dutch-Frisian dictionary.
en Dirk skreau:
> There is a reference grammar written by Pieter Meijes Tiersma > that was published by Foris in 1985, I believe. It's in my > office (and I'm not), so I can't give you an ISBN. It's really > more of a sketch than a fully fleshed-out reference grammar, but > it does provide some useful information. You might also look at > Tiersma's dissertation on the lexicon in generative phonology > (which is also the title, I believe); lots of stuff on Frisian > there as well (especially breaking).
Thanks for the info... I'll make a note of that one. Roger skreau:
> As the saying goes, Try+ACE- Get a decent Dutch-English Dict. and look up
every
> word. If you already know het, de, en etc. you're halfway there. As you > know, Dutch is essentially misspelled English with German grammar, so it's > familiar enough. Surely by the end of Vol 1 you'll be cooking. I'm
serious+ACE-
> +ADs--) > I don't know if their Library is on-line, but you might try Hope College,
in
> Holland Michigan. +ADw-http://hope.edu/+AD4- A very fine little school,
affiliated
> with the Reformed Church. More than half the town, and much of the
student
> body, is of Dutch descent.
Can't tell your tone of voice, Roger, due to some odd character mangling to your message... However, I think I can assume a smiley or somesuch there <g>. Actually, my reading Dutch isn't that bad (last summer I embarrassed my then-girlfriend by picking up a Dutch newspaper in Woolies in Poole and commenting on the main stories), and the look-it-up-twice technique is just the one I use for checking stuff in my smallish Dutch-Frisian dict. It's just that I'm not so confident that I could face a long shelfful... I have more than enough fun understanding my Dutch Etymological Dictionary, anyway. The simple truth is that I'm out of practice, after concentrating on Norwegian and Jameld for the last year or so. Just off to check hope.edu... James ========================================================================= james@zolid.com James Campbell Zeugma--Our Life Is Design www.zolid.com =========================================================================