Re: Phonetics vs. Phonemics (was: apparently bizarre 'A's)

Quoting "Mark J. Reed" <markjreed@...>:

> On 2/23/06, Philip Newton <philip.newton@...> wrote:
> > On 2/23/06, Mark J. Reed <markjreed@...> wrote:
> > > The most different-seeming to me are [h] and [f] for Japanese /h/,
> >
> > /hu/ is [p\M] AFAIK, not [fM].
>
> You mean [PM]!  I see no reason for a valuable monograph like [P] to
> be used as an alternative to [v\]  in CXS, when symmetry demands that
> it be used for IPA [Ï•] (phi).  The CXS chart should be amended at
> once!  At once, do you hear? :)
Don't get your hopes up - I've been using [P] for the voiceless bilabial
fricative for years (it's a common sound in Meghean, eg _paph_ [paP] "father"),
and the chart has still not been changed.

                                               Andreas