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Re: Phonetics vs. Phonemics (was: apparently bizarre 'A's)

From:Benct Philip Jonsson <bpj@...>
Date:Friday, February 24, 2006, 21:33
Dirk Elzinga skrev:
> On 2/24/06, Andreas Johansson <andjo@...> wrote:
>>I also seem to recall hearing of a language where /k/ had a [G] allophone >>between vowels, which, while easy to imaging diachronically, is a pretty stark >>difference synchronically. > > > Perhaps you recall reading one of my earlier posts on Shoshoni; it has > just this kind of allophony.
One rather well-known language which has this allophony is Tamil. /k/ is [k] word initially and in gemination, [g] after /n/ (which becomes [N] in this position) and [G] when ungeminated between vowels. Obviously it is nonsense to speak of a main allophone -- what we have is a velar obstruent phoneme with different realizations in different positions. Other obstruents in Tamil have similar allophony. -- /BP 8^)> -- Benct Philip Jonsson -- melroch at melroch dot se "Maybe" is a strange word. When mum or dad says it it means "yes", but when my big brothers say it it means "no"! (Philip Jonsson jr, age 7)


Dirk Elzinga <dirk.elzinga@...>