Re: OT: Prayer, ritual and magic // was conlang website

Nicc Taylor wabbe:


> Carlos Thompson wrote:
> > I can't help rationalizing, then I'm pretty sure that when I
> > say "I believe" or "I don't believe" I'm not saying "it is" or "it
is
> > not".
>
> How does that make one "agnostic"?  IMO, if one *doesn't*
> acknowledge the fact that their beliefs are imperfect, that they
> don't KNOW what is, that's either sheer vanity or denial.  Or
> am I misunderstanding what you're saying?
Well, I can make a list on things I believe and things I believe not.
For example I believe there is something/someone out there (or right
here) more or less the way I was taught God.  The exact manifestation
of God can change from personal to impersonal, from father to plain
observer, and the way I believe blurs from "there must be something,
just because my life would be senseless without God" to "God is a
simple abstraction of humankind, but as such abstraction is real" to
"I just happen to believe as other people believe in little green
Martians, but the universe is perfectly posible without any God".

I have no clear feeling of God interacting with me, all I believe or
disbelieve is what I was taught (I was rised up in a Catholic country
by La Salle brothers, participated in pastoral groups, and was
involved in student movements in college, guided by Jesuit priests)
and what I know on how the physical universe function which can be
explained without any "creator", and how human nature function which
can be explained without any god.  Then I do believe that the world
can exist without God, but I also believe God exists but His/Her exact
nature is not clear for me (not that I cannot understand but reather I
cannot decide).

Probably I was less clear now than in my previous post.  But I
actually feel confortable in believing in the posibility of God not
existing, because then I can focus in the responsability we have as
human beings as we must be the ones to save ourselves, the ones to
forgive ourselves, the ones to fix the mess ourselves without any
_divine_ or _magical_ intervension.  I do believe that if God exist,
s/he gave us the freedom not to need him/her.

-- Carlos Th