Re: My languages
From: | Andreas Johansson <and_yo@...> |
Date: | Saturday, December 1, 2001, 19:19 |
I wrote:
>Nik Taylor wrote:
>>Adam Walker wrote:
>> > So what gender are infants and the mute? If they aren't concidered
>>sentient
>> > are they gender 4???
>>
>>Yep.
>>
>> > That'd be pretty perverse, but the Utakassi are
>> > primatives, aren't they?
>>
>>I wouldn't call them primitive. They're not at our level of
>>development, but they certainly have metal. Bronze age or so.
>>
>>Lots of languages place infants in non-human categories. For that
>>matter, I've even heard native English speakers refer to infants as
>>"it". And unborn children are often called "it", especially by
>>pro-abortionists. It's all a matter of where you consider the quality
>>of "human" to begin. The Kassi consider that to begin with the
>>acquisition of speech. In our culture, most people consider it to begin
>>either at birth or some point before birth.
>
>So there's strong correlation between what gender a word is placed in and
>what chategory the corresponding thing is in in Utakassi? I mean, Germans
>certainly don't consider girls inanimate, yet _Mädchen_ "girl" is neuter.
On closer thought, _Mädchen_ is a bad example, since it's forced to be
neuter by the dimunitive ending -chen. Better examples are _das Kind_ "the
child" and _das Weib_ "the wife", both grammatically neuter.
Andreas
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