Re: Mixed person plurals
| From: | John Vertical <johnvertical@...> |
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| Date: | Wednesday, July 13, 2005, 13:25 |
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--- In conlang@yahoogroups.com, tomhchappell wrote:
> > Still, this does not circumvent the
> > problem that someone tuning into the > conversation midway through would
>not know
> > what exactly is being talked > about.
>
>That problem occurs with any kind of pronoun at all, except
>first-person-singular.
>It even occurs with "short" names.
Ack, you're right! Tho I think pronouns would give a slightly better clue on
the topic; they _do_ carry _some_ semantic value, after all.
Maybe the pronoun-suffix system could be combined with the name-identifier
system... so "Louise and Lorraine live in London" would be approx. "Lou-her
and Lor-her live in (the) L-place"...
Clearly there's plenty of possibilites here.
> > the distinction between my 3rd and 4th persons
> > is such that a 3rd person is present (can > hear what is being said),
>but a 4th person isn't.
>
>So "3rd person" = "hearer other than addressee"
>and "4th person" = "non-hearer"?
>(more or less)?
Yes. To include the one-way communication case, the 3rd person definition
could be made "hearer who is not expected to reply". Maybe I'll include a
special vocative form of the 3rd person for those cases...
John Vertical
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