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Re: OT: Afrikaans

From:Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>
Date:Monday, June 2, 2003, 14:53
En réponse à Henrik Theiling :


>I thought that was the same hypercorrect thing as in /e:/ which, as I >just posted, always sounded like [e:I] or [eI] or [e(I)] to me.
Let me make that clear: I've *never* ever heard /e:/ and /o:/ (realised simply as [e] and [o] except in front of /r/ where they are lengthened) as diphtonguised except in Northern dialects or sometimes before /r/. Certainly not here (where diphtongues are even monophtonguised) nor in the South or in Central dialects.
>Definitely diphthongised, too. And /2:/ always sounded like [2:Y] to >me. I write the first part long because I don't feel the two parts >are evenly long.
Agreed on the difference of length. But to hear simple vowels as diphtongues, you must have had access to only a limited sample of Dutch accents. I myself also have had access to only a limited sample, but diphtonguising /e:/ and /o:/ is definitely not part of what is common in my sample. Christophe Grandsire. http://rainbow.conlang.free.fr You need a straight mind to invent a twisted conlang.