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Re: verbs = nouns?

From:H. S. Teoh <hsteoh@...>
Date:Wednesday, January 10, 2001, 2:30
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 05:58:02PM -0500, DOUGLAS KOLLER wrote:
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> But if hong2 is only an adjective with no verbiness, how, then, can the > perfective particle "le" be added to it? Isn't "le" a verbal suffix? I think > the point here is that, unlike in IE langs, adjectives behave more like > verbs than like nouns.
Oh? I thought "le" simply marks the completion of something, the arrival at a particular state. When applied to verbs, it marks perfective aspect; when applied to adjectives, it marks the acquisition of the adjectival property. So "hong2le" to me simply means that something has finally reached the state of redness (to me, I interpret the "hong2" as describing this final state, rather than the process of reddening). But then again, my understanding of what a verb is may not be the same as yours, so perhaps that's the cause of this contention. :-) T -- All men are mortal. Socrates is mortal. Therefore all men are Socrates.