Re: CONLANG Digest - 21 Feb 2004 to 22 Feb 2004 (#2004-52)
From: | Joe <joe@...> |
Date: | Wednesday, February 25, 2004, 6:52 |
John Quijada wrote:
>Doug Dee wrote:
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>>In a message dated 2/24/2004 4:54:05 AM Eastern Standard Time,
>>herodote92@YAHOO.COM writes:
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>>>If I may ask: isn't it remarkable that languages
>>>presented as examples for ergativity (Basque, Eskimo,
>>>Georgian, Dyirbal...) nearly always seem to be used in
>>>very far-off, hidden and hardly reachable places,
>>>seeming to indicate that these people had little
>>>contact with other ones ?
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>>I'm not sure that the Basques in the Pyrenees are any less reachable than
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>>speakers of accusative languages in the Alps. And they seem less isolated
>>than the Icelanders.
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>>There are many ergative languages in Australia, and many accusative ones.
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>>would be hard to claim any of them are isolated, since they all have
>>neighbors, and Australia isn't particularly mountainous, so they're not
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>>each other.
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>>I think there's a good selection of accusative languages in the Caucasus as
>>well.
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>>Hindi has "some ergative morphology" (per Dixon) and cannot be considered
>>isolated or hard to reach.
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>Perhaps there's a better way to put Phillipe's question: Isn't it curious
>that most ergative languages (with the exception of Hindi) appear to occur
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Just a point - Hindi is a Split-S language with a tendency towards
accusativity, not an Ergative language, though it does have an Ergative
past tense.