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Re: Aspirated stops vs. fricatives (was Re: Tit'xka (Pretty Long Post))

From:Tom Wier <artabanos@...>
Date:Wednesday, December 30, 1998, 0:19
Nik Taylor wrote:

> Eric Christopherson wrote: > > /p/, /t/, and /k/ are generally aspirated in English except after /s/=
,
> > so (AFAIK) the k in "kill" and the ck in "pack" are the same: [kIl] > > [p&k]. But notice that "skill" is [sk_hIl]. > > Not so. kill =3D [k_hIl], skill =3D [skIl], pack =3D [p&k]. The /k/ i=
n skill
> and the /k/ in pack aren't quite the same either. I'm not sure exactly > what the difference is, tho, but there is a subtle difference.
Final stop consonants in English feature not entire release of the air flow. This, in many cases, makes it sound as if e.g. /t/ were a glottal stop. It is also, BTW, why when English speakers make fun of people with Italian accents, they always give them extra vowels in final position, because Italian does have release (with some aspiration) in final position, which to English ears sounds like a muffled vowel. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Tom Wier <twier@...> ICQ#: 4315704 AIM: Deuterotom Website: <http://www.angelfire.com/tx/eclectorium/> "Cogito ergo sum, sed credo ergo ero." "S=F4=F0 is gecy=FEed / =FE=E6t mihtig God manna cynes / w=EAold w=EEde-ferh=F0." _Beowulf_, ll. 700-702 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D