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Re: Aspirated stops vs. fricatives (was Re: Tit'xka (Pretty Long Post))

From:BP.Jonsson <bpj@...>
Date:Monday, January 4, 1999, 11:11
At 17:08 on 29.12.1998, Eric Christopherson wrote:

> Sheets, Jeff wrote: > > Okay. I mean /x/. I also am not familiar with any difference between your > > /k_h/ and /k/. If they are allophones in English, I'm incapable of hearing > > the difference. E.G. I see no difference between the k in kill and ck in > > pack. > > Aspiration is simply a puff of air after a sound. Usually in English, > unvoiced stops are aspirated except when they come after /s/; thus > "speak" is [spik], whereas "peak" is [p_hik]. It's hard at first to > hear the difference, but you can feel the puff of air by putting your > hand in front of your mouth while saying the words. You can feel air > hitting it when you say "peak" but not "speak."
I saw a textbook of Swedish for Finnish speakers that recommended practicing Swedish pronunciation with a candle in front of ones mouth, making sure that the flame waved when pronouncing aspirated unvoiced stops. Of course this works the other way around to, which I used succesfully when learning Tibetan.
> > In French, Spanish, and Italian, among other languages, stops are > never aspirated. In languages descended from Sanskrit, among others, > the difference between aspirated and unaspirated stops is phonemic; > the meaning of a word depends on it.
To me all non-geminate Italian stops sounded like voiced, especially intervocalically (e.g. "molto prattigo") I wonder if it was due to lack of aspiration, or if they are _actually_ voiced in modern Tuscan and Roman speech. Any Italian left on this list? /BP B.Philip Jonsson <bpj@...> ---------------------------------------------------- Solitudinem faciunt pacem appellant! (Tacitus)